Comments on: The Death Of DMOZ? http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/ Opportunities, Opinions, Optimize Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:58:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rafael - Builders http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5351 Rafael - Builders Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:54:29 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5351 I think so... They are not sending email about the links you submitted to them. Almost 6 sites that I have submitted last 2 months I heard nothing on it. I agree, DMOZ was died already... I think so… They are not sending email about the links you submitted to them. Almost 6 sites that I have submitted last 2 months I heard nothing on it. I agree, DMOZ was died already…

]]> By: Desty’s Gold Starred Articles September 6th 2007 | Desty Online -- Online and Offline Businesses http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5342 Desty’s Gold Starred Articles September 6th 2007 | Desty Online -- Online and Offline Businesses Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:21:33 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5342 [...] buddy Chris at Blog-Op writes about The Death of DMOZ?  I have to say that there’s alot of drama going on, so many posts everywhere about [...] [...] buddy Chris at Blog-Op writes about The Death of DMOZ?  I have to say that there’s alot of drama going on, so many posts everywhere about [...]

]]> By: Chris Lodge http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5318 Chris Lodge Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:50:08 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5318 I agree with what you say, and you've really hit the nail on the head for me, about re-submission - I've heard nothing, are my sites rejected, not suitable or just plain ignored? How do I find out without getting slapped down and/or banned? This side of things does need to be sorted out fast. I agree with what you say, and you’ve really hit the nail on the head for me, about re-submission – I’ve heard nothing, are my sites rejected, not suitable or just plain ignored? How do I find out without getting slapped down and/or banned?

This side of things does need to be sorted out fast.

]]> By: Chester's Clean House http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5308 Chester's Clean House Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:31:08 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5308 I can only image how busy the editors are. With so many people starting new blogs, they have to be getting a lot of submissions. They had major hardware issues about a year ago, and were not taking new submissions or accepting any new editors. The problem is there is no way to tell if they actually even received your submission. There is no way to lookup what the status is. I think if they implemented that feature a lot of the anger felt by many would be squashed. I submitted my site, but I have no idea what's its status is. Everyone says you shouldn't re-submit your site as that could keep your listing from ever showing up. In the Web 2.0 world users expect to see immediate results, and human editing of millions of sites doesn't lean itself to anything immediate. As to the relevance of DMOZ, it is still relevant because humans can filter through the spam sites much better than any computer. If Google knows that a human has reviewed a site and has approved its content, it only makes sense that site should get a higher weight then some spam page. A spammer can always tweak his site to get around a computer algorithm, but a human is much harder to trick. I can only image how busy the editors are. With so many people starting new blogs, they have to be getting a lot of submissions. They had major hardware issues about a year ago, and were not taking new submissions or accepting any new editors. The problem is there is no way to tell if they actually even received your submission. There is no way to lookup what the status is. I think if they implemented that feature a lot of the anger felt by many would be squashed. I submitted my site, but I have no idea what’s its status is. Everyone says you shouldn’t re-submit your site as that could keep your listing from ever showing up. In the Web 2.0 world users expect to see immediate results, and human editing of millions of sites doesn’t lean itself to anything immediate. As to the relevance of DMOZ, it is still relevant because humans can filter through the spam sites much better than any computer. If Google knows that a human has reviewed a site and has approved its content, it only makes sense that site should get a higher weight then some spam page. A spammer can always tweak his site to get around a computer algorithm, but a human is much harder to trick.

]]> By: Korupce v katalogu DMOZ? http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5296 Korupce v katalogu DMOZ? Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:38:32 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5296 [...] De Valk, jehož editorský ú?et byl prý po dotazech na vy?azení shoemoney.com smazán. Zdroj: Blog-op Tagy: DMOZ, Jeremy Schoemaker, Joost De Valk, Kauzy, ODP, Open Directory Project, Rob [...] [...] De Valk, jehož editorský ú?et byl prý po dotazech na vy?azení shoemoney.com smazán. Zdroj: Blog-op Tagy: DMOZ, Jeremy Schoemaker, Joost De Valk, Kauzy, ODP, Open Directory Project, Rob [...]

]]> By: Rob Jones http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5268 Rob Jones Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:36:46 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5268 No offense taken on the "alleged editor" thing, I was impressed that you didn't accept it at face value. It was a good catch. The tone at Resource Zone has been a subject of internal discussion as well. I tried working the boards at RZ back when we had status checks, and it was sort of a siege mentality that set in. The concept when proposed sounded good, it was implemented for all the right reasons, but somewhere it swung into a bitter mode. Like everyone, we live and we learn. As for the future, it's evident to anyuone that our current concept is "Web 1.0". Still we have a huge volunteer base willing to plug forward... so our challenge is to retool and come out of the cocoon in a better form. No idea what that'll be, but I'm sure plenty of people will let us know if it doesn't work. LOL. We are never lacking in that department. Thanks again for your balanced approach. It truly is a breath of fresh air. Regards - Rob Jones PS: Yes, staff *should* sue Shoe out of existence. I'm just disappointed how many bought it without proof. Darn that whole human nature thing, we love tales that play to our predispositions. No offense taken on the “alleged editor” thing, I was impressed that you didn’t accept it at face value. It was a good catch.

The tone at Resource Zone has been a subject of internal discussion as well. I tried working the boards at RZ back when we had status checks, and it was sort of a siege mentality that set in.

The concept when proposed sounded good, it was implemented for all the right reasons, but somewhere it swung into a bitter mode. Like everyone, we live and we learn.

As for the future, it’s evident to anyuone that our current concept is “Web 1.0″. Still we have a huge volunteer base willing to plug forward… so our challenge is to retool and come out of the cocoon in a better form.

No idea what that’ll be, but I’m sure plenty of people will let us know if it doesn’t work. LOL. We are never lacking in that department.

Thanks again for your balanced approach. It truly is a breath of fresh air.

Regards – Rob Jones

PS: Yes, staff *should* sue Shoe out of existence. I’m just disappointed how many bought it without proof. Darn that whole human nature thing, we love tales that play to our predispositions.

]]> By: Chris Lodge http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5255 Chris Lodge Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:21:51 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5255 Hey Rob, thanks for your comment. That's good news for the future of DMOZ (Note the ? in my post title - I can sit on the fence when I need to ;-) ) and I do hope it works out - I hope I didn't say anything unfair within my opinions, but my experience of DMOZ hasn't been positive, and while I appreciate the workload of the editors and forum mods doesn't encourage flowery prose, the abruptness and willingness to dismiss people out of hand discouraged me from following up my website submissions, and certainly even thinking about becoming an editor. If things are changing, it's certainly something I'd like to volunteer for. With regard to the Shoemoney scenario, I was careful to try and tread the path between the two stories, as truth is always a matter of perception, especially in a written medium like the web. Thanks for that snippet Eric The Bun, but if Shoemoney has made this story up, I hope he gets sued to death. Equally if he is telling the truth, lets see the evidence, and see DMOZ act accordingly. Sorry about the 'alleged' but I had to make the point that I didn't know for certain. ;-) Thanks all, even those jammy gits who managed to get in! Hey Rob, thanks for your comment.

That’s good news for the future of DMOZ (Note the ? in my post title – I can sit on the fence when I need to ;-) ) and I do hope it works out – I hope I didn’t say anything unfair within my opinions, but my experience of DMOZ hasn’t been positive, and while I appreciate the workload of the editors and forum mods doesn’t encourage flowery prose, the abruptness and willingness to dismiss people out of hand discouraged me from following up my website submissions, and certainly even thinking about becoming an editor. If things are changing, it’s certainly something I’d like to volunteer for.

With regard to the Shoemoney scenario, I was careful to try and tread the path between the two stories, as truth is always a matter of perception, especially in a written medium like the web. Thanks for that snippet Eric The Bun, but if Shoemoney has made this story up, I hope he gets sued to death. Equally if he is telling the truth, lets see the evidence, and see DMOZ act accordingly.

Sorry about the ‘alleged’ but I had to make the point that I didn’t know for certain. ;-)

Thanks all, even those jammy gits who managed to get in!

]]> By: Palm Coast http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5241 Palm Coast Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:14:53 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5241 Lol, I'm so sick of hearing this. DMOZ has been dead for a while now. But their death isn't complete, because Google still trusts them. It doesn't matter how many people say it's dead, because it's not, and Google isn't doing anything about it. Lol, I’m so sick of hearing this. DMOZ has been dead for a while now. But their death isn’t complete, because Google still trusts them. It doesn’t matter how many people say it’s dead, because it’s not, and Google isn’t doing anything about it.

]]> By: praveen http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5238 praveen Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:39:35 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5238 DMOZ has been completely abused, Now body who tries to submit on his won , never gets listed. DMOZ has been completely abused, Now body who tries to submit on his won , never gets listed.

]]> By: Eric-The-Bun http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/comment-page-1/#comment-5232 Eric-The-Bun Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:47:49 +0000 http://blog-op.com/the-death-of-dmoz/#comment-5232 Re: Linkbaiting From Shoemakers disclaimer which he says everyone should read before acting on his post:- 'You should assume everything written on this blog is a lie. You should assume I have motivation for linking to everything on this page and will benefit from it somehow. .... You should question everything. You should come up with your own thoughts and opinions and not trust some stupid blogger.' Looks like there are a lot of stupid bloggers out here... Re: Linkbaiting

From Shoemakers disclaimer which he says everyone should read before acting on his post:-

‘You should assume everything written on this blog is a lie. You should assume I have motivation for linking to everything on this page and will benefit from it somehow. …. You should question everything. You should come up with your own thoughts and opinions and not trust some stupid blogger.’

Looks like there are a lot of stupid bloggers out here…

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